[Oa-italia] OA e publishers
Tessa Piazzini
tessa.piazzini a unifi.it
Mer 2 Maggio 2018 11:14:43 CEST
Il problema è che non dovrebbero essere le biblioteche a combattere, ma
le università di cui fanno parte (e il ministero ancora sopra): noi
possiamo fornire dati, numeri, costi, etc. ma alla fine il potere
decisionale rimane in mano agli organi politici.
Tessa Piazzini
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Il 29/03/2018 18:36, Elena Giglia ha scritto:
> ... e non posso fare a meno di copiare il commento di Peter
> Murray-Rust su questo:
>
> Libraries will have to decide whether they're for reseachers or for
> publishers; they cannot continue as they are, talk but no fight
> https://twitter.com/petermurrayrust/status/979361884246806528
> eg
>
> 2018-03-29 15:34 GMT+02:00 Elena Giglia <elena.giglia a unito.it
> <mailto:elena.giglia a unito.it>>:
>
> ... scusate, ma questa era troppo bella...
>
> Vi copio i tweets di Mike Taylor che riprendono passaggi di Martin
> Grötschel, fra l'altro membro del team di negoziazione DEAL, ad
> APE 2018 (fiera editori) https://www.ape2018.eu/
> Sei minuti di lucidissimo discorso su monopolio, implicazioni
> economiche, avidità, profitti "grotteschi" e... pretese di essere
> i "buoni Samaritani" della scienza.
> https://youtu.be/dGAXTEnqBew
>
> Da sentire!
> eg
>
> The opening remarks by the hosts of conferences are usually highly
> forgettable, a courtesy platform offered to a high-ranking
> academic who has nothing to say about the conference's subject.
> NOT THIS TIME!
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978912940035313665>
>
> These are the opening remarks of Martin Grötschel, who as well as
> being president of the host institution, the Berlin Brandenburg
> Academy of Sciences and Humanities, is a 25-year veteran of
> #*OpenAccess* <https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenAccess?src=hash>
> campaigning. and a member of the German DEAL negotiating team.
> Read on…
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978913546133229568>
>
> 1m50s: "I have always been aware of the significant imbalance and
> the fundamental divisions of the academic publication market.
> Being in the DEAL negotiation team, this became even more apparent
> ..."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978913951135207424>
>
> 2m04s: "On the side of the scientists there is an atomistic market
> where, up to now and unfortunately, many of the actors play
> without having any clue about the economic consequences of their
> activities."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978914496004706304>
>
> 2m22s: "In Germany and a few other countries where buyer alliances
> have been organised, they are, as expected, immediately accused of
> forming monopolies and they are taken to court — fortunately,
> without success, and with the result of strengthening the alliances."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978915000470339584>
>
> 2m38s: "On the publishers' side there is a very small number of
> huge publication enterprises with very smart marketing people.
> They totally dominate the market, produce grotesque profits, and
> amazingly manage to pretend to be the Good Samaritans of the
> sciences."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978915525018480640>
>
> 2m27s: "And there are the tiny [publishers ...] tentatively
> observed by many delegates of the big players, who are letting
> them play the game, ready to swallow them if an opportunity comes
> up." (Predatory Publishers, anyone? -- Ed.)
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978916265166344192>
>
> 3m18s: "When you, the small publishers, discuss with the
> representatives of the big guys, these are most likely very
> friendly to you. But […] when it comes to discussing system
> changes, when the arguments get tight, the smiles disappear and
> the greed begins to gleam."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978916810304245760>
>
> 3m42s: "You will hear in words, and not implicitly, that the small
> academic publishers are considered to be just round-off errors,
> tolerated for another while, irrelevant for the world-wide
> scientific publishing market, and having no influence at all."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978917323905093632>
>
> 4m00s: "One big publisher stated: if your country stops
> subscribing to our journals, science in your country will be set
> back significantly. I responded […] it is interesting to hear such
> a threat from a producer of envelopes who does not have any idea
> of the contents."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978918001599746048>
>
> 4m39s: "Will the small publishers side with the intentions of the
> scholars? Or will you try to copy the move towards becoming a
> packaging industry that exploits the volunteer work of scientists
> and results financed by public funding?"
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978918717760397312>
>
> 5m55: "I do know, though, that the major publishers are verbally
> agreeing [to low-cost Gold #*OpenAccess*
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenAccess?src=hash>] , but not
> acting in this direction all, simply to maintain their huge profit
> margins."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor/status/978919059738845184>
>
> 6m06s: "In a market economy, no-one can argue against profit
> maximisation [of barrier-based scholarly publishers]. But one is
> also allowed to act against it. The danger may be really
> disruptive, instead of smooth moves in the development of the
> academic publishing market."
>
> <https://twitter.com/MikeTaylor>
>
> Finally at 6:42: "You may not have enjoyed my somewhat unusual
> words of welcome, but I do hope that you enjoy this year's APE
> [Academic Publishing in Europe] conference."
>
>
>
> --
> dr. Elena Giglia
> Unità di progetto Open Access
> Direzione Ricerca e Terza Missione
> Universita' degli Studi di Torino
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