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    <p><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Salve</font></p>
    <p><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">sul fatto che
        l'articolo segnalato sia interessante, mi pare non ci sia
        bisogno particolare di accordo. E' un fatto che riporta notizie
        circolate - a mia modesta conoscenza - assai poco e questo lo
        rende  utile. Peraltro, viene citata anche la recente, e
        migliorata, revised edition delle guidelines, sulla quale si e'
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        monospace"><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ancora </font>poco
        al di fuori degli addetti ai lavori. Contestualizzare
        naturalmente e' aperto a tutti. Percio' di nuovo grazie a chi ha
        fatto circolare questa voce fuori dal coro.</font></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 11/06/2019 10.01, Elena Giglia ha
      scritto:<br>
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        <div>Buongiorno</div>
        <div>non sono molto d'accordo.</div>
        <div>Tutta l'impostazione di Poynder (come al solito) mira a
          confondere le acque.<br>
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        <div>In particolare l'affermazione finale <br>
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          <span style="font-family:"times new
            roman",serif;font-size:12pt">That
            perhaps is the key issue: forcing oppressive OA mandates on
            researchers may turn out to be counterproductive.</span> <br>
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        <div>è in aperto contrasto con lo scopo dichiarato di PlanS,
          come ricordato da Robert Ian Smits in un'intervista allo
          stesso Poynder ancora in evidenza sul suo blog:</div>
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          <h3 class="gmail-post-title entry-title">“It is for publishers
            to provide Plan S-compliant routes to publication in their
            journals.”<br>
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          <h3 class="gmail-post-title entry-title"><font size="2"><span
                style="font-weight:normal">Non è quindi una politica per
                gli autori, ma per gli editori. Perché in sostanza
                smettano di prenderci in giro con una "transizione" che
                dura da 15 anni e che non ha  fatto altro che
                incrementare i loro introiti con in double dipping. Il
                fatto stesso che abbiano chiesto "più tempo" significa
                che in 15 anni NON hanno fatto un solo passo per una
                transizione reale all'Open Access immediato.</span></font><br>
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          <a
href="https://poynder.blogspot.com/2018/10/it-is-for-publishers-to-provide-plan-s.html"
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        <div>Inoltre, citare solo la lettera della Kamerlin ("
          <span style="font-family:"times new
            roman",serif;font-size:12pt">led to <a
              href="https://sites.google.com/view/plansopenletter/home"
              moz-do-not-send="true">a petition</a> of protest being
            launched") </span>non è corretto, perché esiste anche
          un'analoga e più fortunata iniziativa di supporto lanciata da
          Michael Eisen: <a
            href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07632-2"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07632-2</a></div>
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        <div>Cari saluti</div>
        <div>eg<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mar 11 giu 2019 alle
          ore 09:42 Monica Marra <<a
            href="mailto:monica.marra@inaf.it" moz-do-not-send="true">monica.marra@inaf.it</a>>
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            <p><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Molto
                interessante, anche nell'approfondimento al link
                segnalato.</font></p>
            <p><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">MM<br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_-3467569364652100232moz-cite-prefix">Il
              08/06/2019 13.23, Antonella De Robbio ha scritto:<br>
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              <pre class="gmail-m_-3467569364652100232moz-quote-pre">[sparc-oaforum] Why did Riksbankens Jubileumsfond decide to leave cOAlition S?
post di Richard Poynder
Perhaps unsurprisingly, while cOAlition S is quick to tell the world
when it signs up a new funder for Plan S, it is silent when a funder
leaves the coalition. It has not, for instance, publicly commented on
the decision by the Swedish Foundation for Humanities and Social
Sciences (Riksbankens Jubileumsfond, or RJ) to leave. RJ’s name just
disappeared from the Plan S web page sometime during the week
beginning 20th May.

How, when and why did RJ leave?
More here: <a class="gmail-m_-3467569364652100232moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://poynder.blogspot.com/2019/06/why-did-riksbankens-jubileumsfond.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://poynder.blogspot.com/2019/06/why-did-riksbankens-jubileumsfond.html</a>
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