<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Riprendo l'articolo segnalato da Andrea Capaccioni (<a href="https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/02/28/why-uc-split-with-publishing-giant-elsevier/">https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/02/28/why-uc-split-with-publishing-giant-elsevier/</a>) per estrapolare questo gustoso incipit che la ldice lunga sulla correttezza nelle contrattazioni:</div><div><br></div><div>
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Elsevier wanted to keep meeting with us, and we have a meeting scheduled
for tomorrow (Friday), but yesterday they approached our faculty
directly — faculty who are editors of Elsevier journals, who they have
working relationships with — and also the media, and presented a rosy
view of the offer they’d made to us. Their characterization of the offer
left things out, and they didn’t mention what we’d proposed as
conditions. They went public with it. So, we announced the end. </span><br></div><div><br></div><div>e questo calcolo, utile credo anche dalle nostre parti:</div><div>
<p>From the very beginning, we had two goals: a reduction in costs — we
pay about $11 million a year to Elsevier in subscription fees, which is
25 percent of UC system-wide journal costs — and default open access
publication for UC authors: that is, that Elsevier would publish an
author’s work open access unless the author didn’t want to. This is
consistent with the UC faculty senate’s goal of all work being published
open access.</p>
<p>We also wanted a contract that integrated a paid subscription with
open access publishing fees. It would have been a transformative
agreement, one that would shift payments for reading journal articles
into payments for publishing them, and publishing them open access.</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">Elsevier eventually offered to do something like what we wanted, for
open access, but they wanted to charge us a lot more. Our current
calculations are that they would have increased the amount of our
payments by 80 percent — an additional $30 million over a three-year
contract.</span></p>
</div><div>Buona lettura, merita davvero</div><div>eg<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 2 mar 2019 alle ore 09:32 Elena Giglia <<a href="mailto:elena.giglia@unito.it">elena.giglia@unito.it</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Un articolo sul tema<div><a href="https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02/university-california-boycotts-publishing-giant-elsevier-over-journal-costs-and-open" target="_blank">https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02/university-california-boycotts-publishing-giant-elsevier-over-journal-costs-and-open</a><br></div><div>e la risposta di Elsevier</div><a href="https://twitter.com/ElsevierConnect/status/1101265584266928129" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ElsevierConnect/status/1101265584266928129</a></div><div dir="ltr"><div><img src="cid:ii_jsr8b1810" alt="image.png" width="472" height="205"><br></div><div>eg</div> <div> <br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 2 mar 2019 alle ore 00:14 Andrea Capaccioni <<a href="mailto:andrea.capaccioni@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrea.capaccioni@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Le ragioni della rottura delle trattative <div dir="auto"><a href="https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/02/28/why-uc-split-with-publishing-giant-elsevier/" target="_blank">https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/02/28/why-uc-split-with-publishing-giant-elsevier/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Andrea Capaccioni</div></div>
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