<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <font face="Calibri">Buongiorno,<br>
      da "protagonista" della giornata di Elsevier qui a Genova, devo
      dire che la presenza di un esponente istituzionale in questo tipo
      di eventi e' sicuramente opportuna.<br>
      Non posso dire che sia stata una iniziativa del tutto negativa, ma
      sicuramente e' mancata una visione "super partes".<br>
      Diciamo che hanno peccato di omissione...<br>
      <br>
      saluti<br>
      anna maria<br>
       <br>
    </font>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:93b3286c-3531-8f72-f12f-6594d47ce5ff@unifi.it">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <p>Da noi si terrà uno Springer Author Seminar a fine settimana.<br>
        Purtroppo non potrò andare, perchè imepgnata in un corso, ma
        temo che possa avere contenuti simili.<br>
      </p>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Tessa Piazzini 
Responsabile del Servizio di informazione e comunicazione all'utenza
Biblioteca Biomedica <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sba.unifi.it/biomedica" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.sba.unifi.it/biomedica</a>
Responsabile Gdl SBA per l'accesso aperto e il supporto alla valutazione della ricerca
Membro della Commissione di Ateneo per l'accesso aperto ai prodotti della ricerca
Università degli studi di Firenze
Largo Brambilla 3
50134 Firenze
tel. 055 2751375/1370
fax 055 2751382
e-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tessa.piazzini@unifi.it" moz-do-not-send="true">tessa.piazzini@unifi.it</a>
Blog Bibliomedica In-forma: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bibliotecabiomedica.wordpress.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.bibliotecabiomedica.wordpress.com</a></pre>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 19/10/2018 09:25, Elena Giglia ha
        scritto:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAMn2N3Brt2vSaakPLWXSgsm51xJnEf5=EsHKRMnH5vovDit0zQ@mail.gmail.com">
        <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
          charset=utf-8">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div>Buongiorno,</div>
          <div>con enorme sconcerto e amarezza ho appreso ieri a Genova
            durante il mio seminario di formazione su Open Science che
            Elsevier sta offrendo ai Prorettori alla ricerca la giornata
            Elsevier on Campus, di cui allego a titolo di esempio
            l'invito che ho trovato ora per l'università di Palermo
            (dove si tenne a maggio): <a
              href="http://www.unipa.it/Elsevier-on-Campus-per-i-Ricercatori-UniPa/"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.unipa.it/Elsevier-on-Campus-per-i-Ricercatori-UniPa/</a></div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Mi è stato riferito che durante l'incontro - buffet
            gratis - davanti a uno stuolo di docenti e sopratuttto
            giovani ricercatori e PhD viene presentato come pubblicare -
            ovviamente in senso Elseviriano - su riviste con alto Impact
            Factor, e al pomeriggio nella sessione su Open science viene
            presentata come unica opzione possibile per l'Open Access il
            Gold a pagamento APC.</div>
          <div>Risposte vaghe alle uniche due coraggiose colleghe
            bibliotecarie presenti che sottolineavano la possibilità del
            deposito in IRIS e chiedevano chiarimenti sulla questione
            della cessione di tutti i diritti.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Ora. Il problema non è che Elsevier faccia il suo lavoro,
            ed evidentemente lo faccia bene, visto che di solito sono
            coinvolti prorettori e direttori di dipartimento come vedete
            dal programma di Palermo e come è successo anche a Genova.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Il problema è che Elsevier riempie un vuoto lasciato da
            altri gruppi e istituzioni, nonostante ripetute
            sollecitazioni. Ma tant'è.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div> Quello che si potrebbe fare concretamente è cercare di
            capire dove è stato tenuto questo seminario e cercare di
            organizzare una mezza giornata analoga, giusto per
            controbilanciare un po' gli argomenti e cercare di
            presentare le diverse alternative. Anche perché, alla luce
            del nuovo contratto Elsevier, suona davvero come uno
            spottone bello e buono: anche a Genova lamentavano che il
            messaggio che compare all'accettazione del paper è
            fuorviante e l'autore è spinto a scegliere l'opzione Gold.<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Qualcuno è a conoscenza delle altre sedi in cui si è
            svolto?</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Grazie</div>
          <div>eg<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
            -- <br>
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
              data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div>
                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">dr.
                                                          Elena Giglia<span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          Unità di
                                                          progetto Open
                                                          Access<br>
                                                          Direzione
                                                          Ricerca e
                                                          Terza Missione<br>
                                                          Universita'
                                                          degli Studi di
                                                          Torino<br>
                                                          tel.
                                                          +39.011.670<b>.4191</b></span><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                        <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Skype:
                                                          egiglia<br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                        <span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><a
href="http://www.oa.unito.it" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.oa.unito.it
                                                          </a><br>
                                                        </span></div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><br>
                                                        </span></div>
                                                      <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><b>NOAD
                                                          OpenAIRE Italy</b></span></div>
                                                      <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><a
href="https://www.openaire.eu/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openaire.eu/</a></span></div>
                                                      <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><a
href="mailto:noad-it@openaire.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">noad-it@openaire.eu</a></span></div>
                                                      <div><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(103,78,167)"></span><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
        <br>
        <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
OA-Italia mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OA-Italia@openarchives.it" moz-do-not-send="true">OA-Italia@openarchives.it</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://liste.cineca.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oa-italia" moz-do-not-send="true">https://liste.cineca.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oa-italia</a>
PLEIADI: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openarchives.it/pleiadi/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openarchives.it/pleiadi/</a></pre>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
OA-Italia mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OA-Italia@openarchives.it">OA-Italia@openarchives.it</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://liste.cineca.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oa-italia">https://liste.cineca.it/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oa-italia</a>
PLEIADI: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openarchives.it/pleiadi/">http://www.openarchives.it/pleiadi/</a></pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
_________________________________
Dott.ssa Anna Maria Pastorini
Servizio Sistema bibliotecario di Ateneo
Universita’ degli studi di Genova
Piazza dell’Annunziata, 6
010-20951554
010-20951552</pre>
  </body>
</html>