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    <p>Grazie del consiglio Elena,</p>
    <p>vado con la richiesta via e-mail.</p>
    <p>Ale<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/07/2018 11:04, Elena Giglia
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        <div>caro Alessandro,</div>
        <div>io direi di sì.</div>
        <div>Ogni spiraglio va utilizzato.</div>
        <div>Ma devi sentire ovviamente il Project Officer o qualcuno
          alla Commissione (ti consiglio <a
            href="mailto:jean-francois.dechamp@ec.europa.eu"
            moz-do-not-send="true">jean-francois.dechamp@ec.europa.eu</a>)
          per avere il via libera finale.</div>
        <div>Se passa l'idea che gli altri archivi di preprint sono
          assimilabili, è un successo.</div>
        <div>Cari saluti</div>
        <div>eg<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Il giorno ven 6 lug 2018 alle ore 08:37
          Alessandro Sarretta <<a
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            <p>Ciao a tutte/i.</p>
            <p>Nella mia esperienza di ricercatore e di collega di
              ricercatori in ambito marino, vedo che i vincoli
              principali alla compliance con il mandato open access di
              H2020 sono i costi delle APC per la via gold OA e i tempi
              di embargo per la via green.</p>
            <p>In particolare per questi ultimi, uno dei problemi
              evidenti è che si pubblica molto con Elsevier (lasciamo
              stare tutte le considerazioni relative...) e i loro tempi
              di embargo sono solitamente 24 mesi, mentre per H2020 al
              massimo devono essere 6. Fin'ora quindi non ero mai
              riuscito a trovare una modalità da consigliare  per uscire
              da questo impasse per chi desidera pubblicare in quelle
              riviste e non ha soldi/voglia di pagare APCs.<br>
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            <p>Da uno scambio di tweet mi sembra di aver trovato uno
              spiraglio, che ho provato a descrivere qui:
              <a
                class="m_5167227843685581225m_-252175003288800540moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ilsarrett.wordpress.com/2018/07/05/how-scientists-can-comply-with-the-h2020-open-access-mandate-through-self-archiving/"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://ilsarrett.wordpress.com/2018/07/05/how-scientists-can-comply-with-the-h2020-open-access-mandate-through-self-archiving/</a></p>
            <p>In pratica, Elsevier dice che si possono caricare i
              post-print senza embargo "by updating a preprint in arXiv
              or RePEc with the accepted manuscript" (vedi <a
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                href="https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing</a>).
              Anche MarXiv (<a
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                href="https://marxiv.org/" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://marxiv.org/</a>) sembra
              poter essere assimilato a quei due repository in quanto
              nonprofit e subject-specific (<a
                class="m_5167227843685581225m_-252175003288800540moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://twitter.com/MarXivPapers/status/1014171094733877248"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/MarXivPapers/status/1014171094733877248</a>),
              quindi archiviando lì il ricercatore dovrebbe essere
              apposto formalmente con H2020.</p>
            <p>Cosa ne dite? Fila effettivamente tutto? Mi piacerebbe
              avere feedback per poter poi ben consigliare in tal senso
              colleghi e comunità marina tutta..</p>
            <p>Grazie,</p>
            <p>Ale<br>
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          Web: <a href="http://ilsarrett.wordpress.com">ilsarrett.wordpress.com</a>
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        <p>Research information:<br>
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          <li><a
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          <li><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-1475-8686">ORCID</a></li>
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