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    <p>Cavolo, tosto il ragazzo! :-)</p>
    <p>Io invece riporto un altro pezzo che smonta un altro elemento che
      Elsevier porta spesso a suo vantaggio, cioè che Elsevier pubblica
      più articoli aperti di ogni altro publisher...</p>
    <p>Ale<br>
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    <p><b>Elsevier</b>: We are one of the leading open access
      publishers, and we make more articles openly available than any
      other publisher.<br>
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      <b>Tennant</b>: OK, it does not matter how many times this is
      said, but this is called selective reading of data. In 2012-2015,
      Elsevier published almost 1.4 million research articles. In 2016,
      it published 25,000 Open Access articles (27,000 in 2017). If it
      publishes now 400,000 articles a year (as stated above), this
      means that the vast majority of its content is still paywalled. If
      Elsevier want to call themselves a leading OA publisher, the same
      data indicates that they are still virtually the largest
      paywall-based publisher, publishing around 375,000 paywalled
      articles each year. Proportionally, this means that around 1 in
      16, or around 6% of Elsevier’s articles are actually OA; which
      many might say makes it one of the smallest OA publishers, when so
      many now have 100%. This also clearly does not lay credence to
      your claim that Elsevier are embracing open science.<br>
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      Note, that these articles often do not even fulfill the widely
      accepted requirements for OA, as authors are asked to transfer
      ‘nominal copyright’ to Elsevier, which in essence is almost the
      same thing as a traditional copyright transfer. Furthermore, the
      vast majority of these articles are published in hybrid journals.
      This is now becoming widely recognised as an unsustainable
      approach to OA, and did not have any of the intended effects that
      were first articulated (e.g., in creating a transition to full OA,
      and creating a functioning market around APCs). Calling yourselves
      a leading OA publisher is factually incorrect, and again also
      ignores the history of lobbying against progressive OA policies.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/07/2018 19:31, Elena Giglia
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Ecco la risposta di Jon Tennant alla replica di Elsevier
          all'articolo segnalato ieri.</div>
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          <h2 class="entry-title">Elsevier serves the global research
            community to deliver open science?</h2>
          <a
            href="http://fossilsandshit.com/elsevier-open-science-monitor-response/"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://fossilsandshit.com/elsevier-open-science-monitor-response/</a></div>
        <div>Jon smonta frase per frase la replica di Elsevier.<br>
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        <div>Copio solo la parte relativa all'Open Science per darvi
          un'idea.<br>
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          <p style="text-align:justify"><i><span style="font-weight:400">Elsevier
                embraces the principles of open science. </span></i></p>
          <p style="text-align:justify"><b>Not really, it embraces its
              own version of open science, and simply asserting that
              they do does not make it so. Their track record in this
              regard is mixed at best, so that it might continue to
              enjoy its </b><a
href="https://www.relx.com/media/press-releases/year-2018/relx-group-2017-results"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><b>large profit margins</b></a><b>;
              something well within its right as a company, but
              disingenuous to pretend it is about embracing open
              science. Indeed, a recent </b><a
              href="https://openscience.fi/opening-academic-publishing"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><b>independent report</b></a><b>
              found that Elsevier scores quite low in their openness
              assessment. I would love to hear how Elsevier is a
              supporter of fairness, equality, rigour, transparency (in
              pricing, for one), open source, zero-length embargoes,
              open data, transparent research assessment, open licensing
              (CC BY or CC-0), and </b><a
href="https://opencitations.wordpress.com/2017/11/24/elsevier-references-dominate-those-that-are-not-open-at-crossref/"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><b>open citations</b></a><b> (or
              even just some of these).</b></p>
          <p style="text-align:justify"><b>At a more fundamental point,
              you have provided information that leads us to conclude
              that around 94% of Elsevier’s annual article output is
              still paywalled content (see your comments, addressed
              further below). By preventing access to research, Elsevier
              actively inhibits the use of useful knowledge and tools
              that teachers, citizens, education unions, researchers,
              policymakers, and other potential users require in order
              to meet the everyday challenges of education systems, and
              our wider societies. Elsevier’s business model of
              knowledge commodification undermines the basic principle
              that all people have an equal right of access to knowledge
              and education, irrespective of their background or status,
              but also explicitly discriminates against the financially
              underprivileged. I would welcome a discussion on how this
              demonstrates Elsevier’s alignment with the principles of
              open science. </b></p>
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