<div dir="ltr">MCP cita:" 

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">German institutions say that they have long prepared for a loss of access, with an extensive system of interlibrary loans on standby.*</span>

<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Carissimi, qui parlo come direttrice di una grande biblioteca che fornisce in uscita tre volte quello che riceve in entrata. Fa ill e dd a livello locale, nazionale ed internazionale.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Mi spiace ma in Italia non siamo in grado di sostenere  "a<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">n extensive system of interlibrary loans".</span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Non è questa la strada con le poche risorse che abbiamo e che continuano a diminuire.</span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Concordo con Ezio che non si possono mettere sullo stesso piano università come La Sapienza e centri di ricerca di piccole dimensioni. Le scale sono diverse.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Raccogliere i dati è il primo passaggio, è fondamentale per confrontare i costi e i benefici di un'uscita dal Big Deal. Se, come dice Galimberti, si cominciasse da qui? Sarebbe già un primo passo. Tutti sappiamo la fatica che si fa nel raccogliere dati: la CRUI, pero', potrebbe avere un ruolo in questo.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Saluti</span></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">MC</span></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 16 maggio 2018 14:50, Elena Giglia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:egiglia@unito.it" target="_blank">egiglia@unito.it</a>></span> ha scritto:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Sicuramente Paola, quello che intendevo io era che per una volta l'Italia potrebbe provare a partecipare in modo attivo a quello che sta succedendo in Europa<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto">Eg</div></font></span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Il mer 16 mag 2018, 14:42 Paola Galimberti <<a href="mailto:paola.galimberti@unimi.it" target="_blank">paola.galimberti@unimi.it</a>> ha scritto:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Quello che è certo è che le strategie non possono essere nazionali, ma almeno europee, come ricorda Robert Jan Smit che stigmatizza l'ossessione per ranking a valutazione, appunto</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sì, intanto comincerei con le strategie nazionali o anche solo con quelle istituzionali Come hanno fatto i colleghi di germania francia e svezia. I contesti sono differenti.</div><div>Nel nostro specifico mi sembra che manchino i dati da cui partire per costruire strategie e manchi il cambiamento culturale, la consapevolezza dei costi e delle alternative</div><div>Potremmo provare a partire da qui? </div><div>Noi abbiamo previsto incontri semestrali della commissione open access formata dai delegati dei 33 dipartimenti. Nelle riunioni si presentano i dati semestrali su full text oa e sui costi sostenuti per APC e si decidono le azioni per incrementare la consapevolezza dei ricercatori.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PG</div></div>-- <br><div class="m_-130760535303660930m_-8019257591270210208gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Paola Galimberti<br></div>Università degli Studi di Milano<br></div>20122 Via Festa del Perdono 7<br></div></div>
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