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Giro alla lista perchè di interesse. Anche noi in Italia abbiamo il
problema di un Sherpa Romeo italico e anche noi, come i francesi,
corriamo il rischio che sia sotto il controllo AIE o similaria.<br>
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Cordiali saluti<br>
Maddalena<br>
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<td>[GOAL] Some questions about Heloise the French Romeo
Sherpa site</td>
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<td>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:38:39 +0200</td>
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<td>Thierry Chanier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thierry.chanier@univ-bpclermont.fr"><thierry.chanier@univ-bpclermont.fr></a></td>
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<td>Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org"><goal@eprints.org></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:goal@eprints.org">goal@eprints.org</a></td>
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We all know the Romeo Sherpa web site
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/">
http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/</a> ) where academics display the
policies
of hundreds of international publishers on author deposit of
articles in
open archives at various stages of the workflow in the scientific
research/publication cycle. These criteria have been defined by the
academic world and are related to the explanation of good practice
for
making research results accessible.<br>
<br>
One might have expected that Héloïse
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://heloise.ccsd.cnrs.fr/"
eudora="autourl">
http://heloise.ccsd.cnrs.fr/</a>) would be a French version of
Romeo
Sherpa, but it is decidedly not. As recalled by Ghislaine Chartron
(see
extract hereafter) it is under the control of French commercial
publishers (FCP). On a public server (see hereafter) FCP develop
their own viewpoints. FCP set up their own criteria in a way that
tends
to dictate to researchers how they should publish and communicate
their
results, see for example the policy for the journal "Revue
d'histoire littéraire de la France" (left menu "Auteurs"
> "Rechercher une revue") where they express their
view not only on Open archives but also on personal websites and
even
Intranets (with a five year embargo) !<br>
<br>
A large majority of French commercial publishers have never been
listed
in Romeo Sherpa. <br>
<br>
Relying on the usual pretext of French Language or difference,
convenient
when leading an autarchic policy which seeks public funding for
their
commercial business, FCP negotiated the opening of the Heloise site
with
the French Minister of Research. They may have done it through the
GFII
consortium, where private institutions are predominant, but also,
very
surprisingly, a consortium in which one of the heads of the CNRS
(Centre
Nationale de la Recherche Scientifique ; a very large public
research
institution in France) sits on the governing body
(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gfii.fr/fr/legfii/conseil-d-administration">
http://www.gfii.fr/fr/legfii/conseil-d-administration</a> ).<br>
<br>
In addition, it should be noted that Heloise web site is hosted by
the
public institution CCSD
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ccsd.cnrs.fr/">http://ccsd.cnrs.fr/</a>,
governed by the
CNRS) which controls and manages HAL
(<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/">
http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/</a>), the main national open
archive,
upon which many other open archives depend.<br>
<br>
In order to come back to a situation where the publication /
dissemination of research results is under the responsibility of
researchers, we suggest that the design and control of Heloise
should be
entirely in the hands of a scientific committe composed exclusively
of
researchers and academics.<br>
<br>
This committee may ask all scientific publishers what their policies
are
on author deposit of articles into open archives according to Romeo
/
Sherpa classification. This information can then be translated and
incorporated into Romeo. The site should mainly display information
about
good practice for providing open access to research results. It may
also
emphasize the necessity for editorial boards of research journals to
require publishers to adopt copyright agreements (such as
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://scholars.sciencecommons.org/">
http://scholars.sciencecommons.org/</a> ), i.e. agreements where
authors
keep full rights over their production.<br>
<br>
Thierry Chanier<br>
Clermont Université<br>
<br>
****** extract of Chartron email on ADBS list
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:adbs-info@listes.adbs.fr">adbs-info@listes.adbs.fr</a>)
March 2012 ***************<br>
<br>
Le groupe du GFII-SNE qui a réuni éditeurs et documentalistes
connait
bien l'initiative Sherpa, le projet Héloïse a été conçu pour palier
certaines lacunes de Sherpa:<br>
1. Ce sont les éditeurs qui déposent dans Héloïse et certifient
l'information (et non dans Sherpa)<br>
2. Héloïse a introduit un ensemble d'options demandées par les
éditeurs
et non présentes dans Sherpa<br>
<br>
[…]<br>
<br>
Ghislaine Chartron<br>
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